@FediThing @nottern @andrewstroehlein Another characteristic seems to be that they don't really care much about consistency... a lot of it seems to come down to just "follow the leader", and the group-identity thing is only one tool that fash leaders use to start their base all rowing in the same direction.
@jwz A lot of people do seem to think that the goal of all business should be profit.
This is an understandable mistake, given the degree of propaganda designed to make us think of "profit" as the raison d'être of all existence, but of course it overlooks the fact that profit itself was supposed to serve a larger end.
(...of, you know, inducing selfish people to be of service to society, despite of the handicap of being selfish.)
@plexus Yeah, it's not where I would have expected either. I mean, I guess it kind of makes sense if you're thinking in terms of "there's a new kind of boost now -- so let's make the boost-icon a menu", but I would have expected to see it as a separate icon. In the absence of a new icon being visible, I'd then expect it to be hidden in the dots menu.
(I still think it should be a separate icon, but maybe that causes problems on small screens?)
@nottern @FediThing @andrewstroehlein
Could it be a deeply racial/ingroup mindset? Like, "justice" means "our group (aryans. whitepeople, Christians, whatever) gets to rule like we deserve, without interference from other groups who aren't really people anyway"? I mean, if they simply cannot imagine people outside their group as being people, then maybe it makes an ugly kind of sense?
@plexus Try quote-posting this one? It should be an option when you press the "boost" :boost_ok: icon. ^.^
@dodo1095zd @WillyECoyote69 @Strandjunker
Vivaldi/Lingvanex translation of that:
it does the way of informing the public - an excess of free misinformation, (it's hard to figure out what's a lie, what's embellished, and what's grains of truth), quality information is paid, so most don't read it... ⁇ ️😉So what are we wondering then?
Are we talking about disinfo in the US, or about the US?
Either way -- I've never had trouble finding out what's going on via fedi, but I gather that doesn't work for a lot of people for one reason or other.
@mekkaokereke Even I, sheltered white suburbanite, can see it: racism is a key element of the rot.
@StillIRise1963 Same. Just the word "homeland" reeked of facism, and I was shocked at the level of acceptance.
We were so innocent then... >.<
On further thought: I would also suggest that the rot extends beyond the US. Look, for example, at "conservative" victories in Canada and the UK. The US is where it is most intensely visible, but it's a worldwide problem.
...and of course many of us are too, but the reason we got into this situation in the first place is the broken system which is now standing in the way of us fixing it. (TLDR: money in politics, plutocracy, and powermongery)
Not that this is an insurmountable obstacle; it just means it's going to take a lot longer than it should (and then we need to redesign and rebuild the thing, as well).
@OccuWorld I suspect that's too intellectual for the sorts of people who approve of that kind of stuff. (Possibly also woke... and they may not know much but they do know woke is bad because socialism.)
@hellomiakoda It may or may not be what you're looking for, but there are no commercials: https://radioparadise.com/home
In case it's useful, here's the report on NC (where I live): https://electiontruthalliance.org/north-carolina-data-analysis-report/
Apparently NC and PA kind of stood out as anomalous, though there are issues in other states as well. (Those two alone wouldn't be enough to change the outcome, but if there are enough others...)
There was also a video discussing this stuff, which is where I came across it. Can dig up the link from my YT history if that would be of interest.
There are two ADHD 5-year-olds inside of you.
One of them is bored with always doing the same things the same way.
The other one is bored with trying to clean up the messes you get yourself into trying to do things differently.
...and honestly, I have no idea what to do with either of them. Maybe give them a pizza or something.
@DemocracyMattersALot Bubbling just under the surface is strong statistical evidence that the election was, in fact, rigged.
We may never be able to prove this, but I find it sufficient evidence for believing that maybe USians aren't quite as deranged as they (we) would have to be if his re-election was legitimate.
@anon_opin I think the main reason they're looked down upon is the belief that they were against new technology in general. They weren't; they just wanted a share in the new wealth it enables.
...which, yeah, is kind of core to what needs to change now. The more jobs are replaced by machines, the more we all need ownership of those machines and what they produce.
And we're living in a fascist police state that's on the verge of launching a world war, as the planet bullets toward the climate tipping point.
We need to overthrow fascism, and capitalism.
